
I agree with you it is not right for a child to show disrespect to a coach. Maybe this player didn't want to go in because he was hurt, who knows? Do you? I do know that this is not the first time that this coach has told the players "we don't need you" or "to leave". I think maybe he should be coaching middle school or younger. I don't think the players have respect for him. I think that both parties should be disciplined.
As far as coaching and dedication. I do know what it takes. I have coached myself. It takes a lot of time from your family. But that is your choice. These coaches choose to be there. I don't think anybody is holding a gun to their head? I don't care how much money they are making in addition to their salary, like I said that is their choice.
Also, it needs to come from the HC. The chain of command. I agree that tempers start rising and the team/players get down. But we as coaches/parents need to keep our players up beat. We don't need to beat them back down. Like I said before we are setting an example. We can't come down to their level. We need to be the adults. It is probably a good thing that it happened towards the end of the game because a bad attitude can spread like a virus.
Very well put RHParenttoo. It is a choice, and, I thought coaches did it because they love the game, not for the money?!!? Or is that not the case? It's like becoming a police officer, low salary, dealing with criminals all day. But it is a choice. I do not think officers become officers because of the salary, but because they LOVE WHAT THEY DO.
It is a choice. That is why I put the money on their to show that it isn't about the money and it is for the love of the game, but when a kid acts like this and it is allowed it will spread like a virus and this team will never win another game. I can tell you this. You will never get another coach to come in here if the parents keep acting the way they do. Believe me. Word spreads fast around the state and if it gets out that the parents allow their kids to disrespect coaches and authority figures you will end up losing your football program all together.
That is where a coach with a winning program needs to come in and take over. Everything will fall into place. That kind of coach would not put up with it from either party.
You do not have to be a winning coach to get respect from your players. I don't know what happened on the field, but Football10 you are right about the "word" spreading. I use to work for a private school and that is exactly what happened to them. The kids were horrible to the coach, showed no respect, and it took them FOREVER to find a coach. They finally found a great one, he demands respect from each and every kid no matter how talented they are, they were all treated equal and respect was expected from everyone on the team. I just wanted to make a point in that coaching is a choice. To me, its like a teacher, or working in a daycare. You have got to love kids first and foremost! Or it's not going to work. Secondly, you have to have kids respect, and it has to be earned.
Usually a coach with experience (winning season or not) knows how to get the respect he needs the minute he walks on the field. My father was a high school coach and I have coached myself. You are right you have to love the kids first no matter what. You have to treat them equal and you have to treat them with respect as well.
We are going to have the same complaints with the High School basketball teams and coaches if they don't win. Sometime you have to hold the student-athlete accountable for their actions. People don't like losing and when they lose, they blame everyone but them yourself.
Do you honestly think a winning coach has any interest in coming to RH at this point?
This town seems to be a coach killer. What winning coach (high school coach) is interested?
Parents in the stands during practice, nothing but negative support from community, a lack of athletic ability, sub-par facilities. Would you come here?
Who has been a victim of "coach killer" from this town? What coach has hurt their winning/great coaching reputation in this town? TuTu you are starting to just throw things out now. If you had/have any kids did they play sports in Richmond Hill?
My children have children of their own and did not play sports in this town.
My point about coach killing is to emphasize one and done or two and done in terms of coach killing. These coaches are not given a chance.
I think the current atmosphere surrounding sports will NEVER attract the "winning" coaches you parents desire.
Tountasakis was a state championship coach from Sreven high school and was run out of here in one year by the middle school parents who were anxious for a one year turn around. I know for a fact he spread his experience far and wide within the coaching community. Check the high school vent three years ago and you would have heard extensive debate about RH football.
"Throwing things out", where was this indignation when bloggers were defaming the current coaches? BTW, I see you still hide behind your screename unwilling to take a public stand of your convictions.
If I was a coach I think it would be a great challenge to come to Richmond Hill. There are plenty of head coaches that would love to come here and turn the program around, but the funds are not there. We have to pay these guys more money. Remember that saying, "You get what you pay for"? Well guess what, we are getting what we are paying for right now.
All coaches love a challenge and want to go to a program that is suffering and turn it around. That is how legends are made, but as long as the parents treat the coaches the way they do, word is going to spread and no coach will touch this place if their life depended on it.
All coaches love a challenge ot they would not coach. Not all want to take on a suffering program. It has to feel right. They want to ensure the talent level is there, the community will support them and the price is right. You want to make sure that the facilities and equipment are up to par. If you look at successful programs the head coach will make as much as the principal and in rare cases more. In my high school the head coach also received a house to live in. At the same time the coach has to fit into the community. If the parents are uncomfortable with a coach they wont support him and down the slippery slope you go.
For example; Jim Donnan followed Ray Goof at UGA. He turned the program around but he never quite fit into the image of a UGA coach. He wasn't the Vince Dooley, Mark Richt type person so he was shown the door after a few minor incidents.
I rather question football10's blog. Is this individual saying WE (the bloggers) are idiots because he said a couple of cuss words? Yes, I have cussed. However, we are speaking in the line of conduct on school property! Are we not? Do our children have to follow a conduct not only during sports but also during school and while on school grounds? First football10, you have to ask yourself. Are you showing respect to these football players? Respect is not giving to a person, you have to earn respect. Maybe you handled a situation inappropriate (for a coach & teaching staff member of the Bryan County Board of Education). Have you contacted these parents of these players who have shown disrespect? If so, has the situation improved or been resolved. If you have not spoken to these parents, one can only speculate. Problems are never solved if they are not addressed. We are ALL guilty of talk!
You speak of respect from the players to the coach. Should it not also be respect players from coach as well? However, you write in your blog that all are idiots, liars, and lets not forget this statement "The problem with this team is that they listen you the idiotic parents who don't know anything about the game of football or what it takes to coach up these players in this community." Now... I ask you again, who is showing respect?
We all can sit here and point fingers at one another, bottom line - our BOA needs to improve our athletic system across the board! When there are positive areas where our children will participate in, our children will then have goals set and become the young adults we all want for them. Bottom line, we all want what is best for our kids! A future! However, coaching staff (all) must be 100% behind with positive reinforcement - basically you are our childrens roll model - like it or not!
Coaching is a tough job; one must never take on that roll thinking the town will just love you. Of course you have a winning record. Please think back before you became a coach... you going to tell me you didn't sit on the bleachers and get upset with the decision the coaching staff made? I think you might be smiling, because I know you have! We've all done it. I don't think anyone on this blog(s) has ever said that coaching is easy! It's not! It's much like being married to military, "the toughest job you'll ever love!"
Truth be told, RH sports program needs some changing!
Your right. We all question why a coach makes a certain call especially when it doesn't work, but isn't it up to the players to execute. Any coach with some sense knows when a coach as made a bad call even when the play still works. In my day I had my coaches cuss me up and down for screwing up and it only made me play harder and even though they would do that I still respected them and they respected me right back.
No, I'm not saying that. You people read too much into anything anybody says. The whole point of the matter is kids should respect adults and the respect will most definitly be returned. When a kid cusses out an adult then they should expect to be given it right back. That player cussed at that coach and he responded the same way most adults would react. If that kid were on the streets and said that to someone, he would have been beaten or even shot. The kid made a mistake and so did the coach, but all you want to do is blame the coach and let the kid slide, by saying he should be more of an adult and kids will be kids. Nothing but excuses for the kid.
So your saying its ok to have the coaches cuss at the kids? What is it about those words being said that makes their point come across any better? Ask the kids what the coach said to them and all they remember are the cuss words. I'm not saying that my kids have never heard those words or that I have never said them but if you knew a little bit more about the situation its not only the words that are said but the context they are in.
I don't think you understand football10. I don't think anybody on here is saying that it is ok for a child to cuss at an adult. Does everybody agree? I am saying that if you are a teacher you wouldn't get away with cussing back. So why should it be ok for a coach to?
Football Parent,
I think you are to quick to make assumptions. I said my children didn't play sports in RH, I never said my grandchildren don't play sports in RH. I believe that gives me an informed say and am not just an outsider here.
For the record, I agree, it is not okay for a coach to swear at a kid. He should have shown restraint and been the mature example. The coach should be dealt with through administration. That said- I hope the player was dismissed from the team.
In no way am I putting down any parenting skills, but I have to ask, do you as parents with teenage kids really know what you're children are like when you're not around? You have to realize these kids are growing up in a completely different generation than what we were raised. So how we thought we should act in school is completely different than what these kids think. Kids are very good at hiding things from their parents. So the way they act around you is not necessarily how they act around others. Yes, in school there is "supposed" to be a level of respect and behavior, but that's not always the case. I will say from first hand observation, your kids don't always act the same as they do around you. I always get a chuckle when a kid acts big and bad, but when their parents are called or even the threat of calling parents, they cower down. In no way am I condoning anything that took place on that field, but do realize that there are kids who are too big for their britches. Please just be aware of what your kids do when you're not around. I really wish parents were able to observe what their kids go through everyday. Sometimes I think teachers/coaches know what goes on in their worlds better than the parents.
Football10, you are very quick to blame parents. Do you realize how many parents put forth their time and effort to make this program a success. I could name quite a few parents that dedicate as many hours as these coaches i.e. Gridiron Association, Golf Cart sales, running the concession stand, working the grills, cleaning the locker rooms..I could go on and on. Respect on the football field should be started by a coach that loves to be out on that field. I don't think these kids would mind losing so much as long as there was team spirit and support from these coaches! If that child was upset and did not want to go into the game, the coach should have handled it in a totally different manner! And yes, this coach does start problems with other children, he is no innocent coach!
Yeah. I see these parents that help out and I commend them for all the time and effort these men and women put forth to help out this team. It is always the same 10 parents that help out week in and week out and I know we have more than that many parents on the gridiron association. By the way what does that have to do with anything that started this conversation. It sounds like to me you just have a person vendetta against one of these coaches. I think you need to read what bzgirl98 says and take it to heart.